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Post by md1400cs on Dec 19, 2013 0:55:54 GMT
I would like to crate a made mast as opposed to a single stick main mast. Clayton's main mast has several pieces lashed together. Is there any pictorial information that would help me in accurately replicating this look? I do have a Proxxon lathe. Thanks to anyone in advance.
Regards,
Michael
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Post by Clayton on Dec 19, 2013 23:40:07 GMT
Hi Michael,
Fred has accurate drawings of the masts. I think that if you sent him an email he would probably be able to help you out with the drawings.
The main mast is made of a lot of different parts, and so I elected to just make it a solid piece of wood and simulate the joints in it.
Cheers! Clayton
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Post by md1400cs on Dec 20, 2013 0:49:38 GMT
Clayton,
Will do. I was not sure on yours. It occurred to me that you might have grooved in the "parts". It looks nonetheless so excellent. Thanks,
MIchael
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Post by fredhocker on Jan 7, 2014 7:30:58 GMT
The main mast is made of eleven pieces of wood, plus some iron bars and strapping. I do not think a lathe will help you, as it is only round for about a third of the total length. I have a drawing I can send if you drop me an email at fred.hocker@maritima.se.
Fred
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Post by md1400cs on Jan 7, 2014 19:34:48 GMT
Fred,
Thank you. I will follow through. Very nice of you PS: I have your great book (:-)
Michael
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Post by reinhard on Jan 3, 2016 19:24:15 GMT
Hi Fred and Michael, I'm new in this forum and happy to found it. I asked Fred to send me the drawings of the main mast already. Maybe I'm impatient or my email was recognized as S P A M. So I would like kindly ask you again to send me the drawings of the main mast. My email address is reinhard.borek@outlook.de.
Reinhard
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Post by fredhocker on Jan 5, 2016 7:48:42 GMT
Reinhard,
Sorry for the delay, I have been out of the office on Christmas break for the last two weeks. I will send you the drawing today!
Fred
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Post by reinhard on Jan 17, 2016 14:18:24 GMT
Hey Fred, Many thanks for sending the drawings. I will make some technical 2D technical drawings using Solid Edge based on these drawing, the book of Mondfeld and - of course - the plans of the Corel construction kit.
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Post by fredhocker on Jan 18, 2016 18:25:34 GMT
Hej Reinhard, Glad they came through OK. Ignore Mondfeld, virtually everything in that book is wrong, especially the stuff about the masts! If you ahve any questions, just let me know here. Fred
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Post by reinhard on Feb 9, 2017 17:41:25 GMT
Hey Fred, I'm calculating the lengths of the different parts of the main mast, especially the lowermast. Because the mast doesn't go till keel on my model I would like to know the length of the mast step, the part which is completely in the hull.
Thanks, Reinhard
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Post by fredhocker on Feb 10, 2017 7:58:48 GMT
Hej Reinhard,
If I understand correctly, you need to know how much of the mast is above the main deck and how much below. As it stands in the museum today, the distance from the main deck to the underside of the mast cap is 17.59 meters, although there has been some settling of the decks. The original height above the deck was probably 17.45 meters or thereabouts. This leaves about 9 meters within the hull.
Fred
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Post by reinhard on Feb 10, 2017 15:46:13 GMT
Hey Fred, this is exactly what I want to know. Many thanks. I have some further questions about the lower mast of the main mast (stormast): - regarding the woldings:
- How many? 4?
- Of which material they were made of? Rope and at the upper and lower end finished with an iron ring?
- What is the diameter size of the rope?
- What is the width of the wolding?
- How is the mast coat (this piece which fixed the mast on the main deck) made?
- regarding the cable sheave (2 of them are mounted in the upper part of the main mast) of the main yard:
- Which kind of material?
- What is the diameter of it?
- What is the dickness of it?
I hope the English translations of the parts are correct.
Cheers, Reinhard
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Post by fredhocker on Feb 13, 2017 11:53:56 GMT
Hi Reinhard, Translation is fine! The wooldings are made of rope 25mm in diameter, wrapped around the mast for a height of 440 mm, more or less. There are four of them below the spiral iron bands which secure the lower ends of the hounds. I think that there were wooden wickets (hoops) nailed to the mast above and below each woolding to protect them from the parrels when raising and lower the yard, but I cannot be entirely sure, since the modern wooldings on the reconstructed mast obscure some of the surface I would like to examine. The evidence for the mast coat is very sparse, but if it existed, it was simply nailed down to the mast pad or held down with a wooden hoop nailed through the cloth into the mast pad. The mast pads are not in very good condition, so it is difficult to be sure exactly how the coats were set up. In any case, there are no wedges at the weather deck level, so the coat would be wrapped directly around the mast. The sheaves for the halliard tyes are different on the fore and main masts. On the foremast, they were made of wrought iron, and there is not enough evidence to allow much of a reconstrution. Other wrought iron sheaves were made as the attached drawing shows, so I would guess the ones in the foremast were similar. Based on the size of the slot, the diameter was about 320 mm, and the thickness about 70-75 mm. The main halliard tyes ran on cast bronze sheaves, 440 mm in diameter and 83 mm thick, weighing about 44 kg each. They turned on iron axles 25 mm in diameter. See the attached photo for the form. Fred Attachments:
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Post by reinhard on Mar 3, 2017 15:32:12 GMT
Hi Fred, Many thanks.
Reinhard
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Post by tromp on Mar 4, 2017 10:48:02 GMT
I would like to drop in here if I may As some might know I am building a full-size replica of the "Hohenzollern model". This is a model of a dutch two-decker from 1665 in 1:22nd scale. There are a few interesting facts about the main mast in Heinrich Winter's recordings of the model. The main mast consisted of three pieces, the core and two cheeks. However, it tapered only longitudinally, cross-wise the main mast remained 3,5 cm wide from the deck up to the crows-nest. This means that tapering of the mast was only observed when viewing the ship from the side. When viewed from the stern (or bow) the main mast didn't taper. Can the same be seen of the remains of Vasa's masts? regards Peter
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