Post by tromp on Jun 25, 2016 13:24:28 GMT
this is my first message on this board, my Name is Peter and I'm from Germany. I am currently building a copy of the so-called Hohenzollernmodel in full size, i.e. in 1/22nd scale
This isn't the first model of a Dutch twodecker that I have built, the first was in the early 1990s and was in 1:50th scale.
I have noticed something regarding the Frames of Dutch-built ships which I would like to describe to you. This has been discussed on other fora, some scholars found my observations "interesting" others reacted downright furiously.
If you have a look at the Image posted below you can see that I have highlighted the rows of treenails with different colours.
The rows of ttreenails also show the positioning of the Frames beneath the hull Planks. The yellow lines Highlight the centerline of the putty on the quarter Gallery which are perfectly vertical. You can see the Frames are not. They are tilted Forward and the sides of the gunports are parallel to the rows of treenails (or vice-versa, whatever way you see it).
We can observe the the same on the Vasa
I have seen Pictures of the Vasa in which can be seen that the treenails are also parallel to the gunports but I don't have any of my own, so here a Picture of the 1:10th scale model will have to do which I took in 1991
My understanding is that the gunports were perfectly square, not trapeziodal or rhomboidal or anything like that. So the sides of the gunports were always at a 90° angle to the deck-surface beneath it. This can be taken for granted on the Vasa and my Research has shown, that it was the same on the Hohenzollernmodel.
I am certain that the Frames weren't perfectly upright, they were tilted slightly in accordance to the sides of the gunports. Thus the aft frames were tilted forwards, the center-frames were upright and the forward Frames were tilted towards the Stern.
This can be verified by a relatively new plan of the Vasa:
And also the famous Stuckenburgh drawing Shows us exactly the same tilted Frames:
Scholars argue that in Witsen there is no mention at all that the Frames are to be tilted. But on the other Hand Witsen also doesn't mention that the Frames are to be upright.
Thoughts are welcome!