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Post by amateur on Dec 2, 2020 20:02:30 GMT
You may be right on the fenders, although there is only little evidence forthese fixed fenders. Nooms displays them, but in all other pics I found, they are not there. This model would be (as far as I can see) the only one showing them. Not impossible, but not a very common addition to dutchships of that era. Do you guys have an opinion on the way the spuigaten on the lower gundeck are formed? It does not look like the way the spuigaten of the upper deck are formed (with a square block around the opening) Jan
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Post by amateur on Nov 30, 2020 20:42:38 GMT
The text does not read as if these parts are bolted to thehull. The 'geslagen' could as well be read as attached to, like sails are 'aan de ra geslagen', ie attached with the use of some ropes. For what it is worth: I can not find shipmodels with these fixed fenders, only one with the hanging version. geheugen.delpher.nl/nl/geheugen/view?identifier=NESA02%3AS2397Jan
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Post by amateur on Nov 30, 2020 18:27:34 GMT
With respect to the luizenplecht I wonder wether we are talking on the same detail. I thought you wanted to restart the duscussion we had last summer: does the deckplanking rest on top of the hullplanking, or does the hullplanking ‘enclose’ the deckplanking. Answer: the model shows deck resting on top of frames and hull planks
With respect to the fenders. Can you indicate were Witsen gives the info, I couln’t find it....
Jan
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Post by amateur on Nov 29, 2020 11:00:26 GMT
Maybe true, but -especially on the HZ-model, that seems to follow real building practice: doors have functioning latches, gratings can be removed, gunportsfunction. Why shoulda piece that is removable in real lifenot be modelled as a removable piece..... But again, I have no real alternative explanation.
I am stilla bit confused over the fact that there seems to be no realentrance to this vinkennet: on both sides it rests onthe deck, and the railingsare fixedto the bulwarks. Why is there no 'doorlike' entrance to this vinkennet? (Eg like the way there is a door in the zetboord in the wais tof the ship.)
Jan
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Post by amateur on Nov 28, 2020 13:31:28 GMT
And this little part, on both sides of the hull. Resting point for the anchor-flukes?
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Post by amateur on Nov 28, 2020 12:48:07 GMT
Check the edge of the deck on the 'other side' of the bowsprit: thereis noblack edge visible. So: the deck is going till the outer edge of the planking, and is not enclosed by planking or wale. With respect to that little box: even if it is a later addition, there must be a reasonfor making that addition. It was not uncommon to modernizi g models: before Birnie got to work, the Genter model had a rather good late 19-century rig, and a matching black/white hull. So, even when it isnot original, but later, what was its function? Jan
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Post by amateur on Nov 25, 2020 14:29:07 GMT
No, no clue whatsoever. Do you know whether that small round hole goes al the way to the inside. and I have been looking through my pics, and it looks as if it is only on one side of the hull.
Jan
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Post by amateur on Oct 26, 2020 16:45:28 GMT
You are right. They used to remove reported spam, but the last months the spam remains. To be honest: I visit regularly, but I don't know who are the moderators of this forum......
Jan
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Post by amateur on Jul 28, 2020 19:07:31 GMT
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Post by amateur on Nov 25, 2019 8:30:45 GMT
Hello Peter,
I can't see the pic you are referring to (need to login at shipsof scale before allowed to view) Without pic, I don't understand your question: spars are generally thicker in the middle than at the ends.
Jan
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Post by amateur on Nov 16, 2019 19:56:44 GMT
Hallo Bela,
Wo geht es schief mit die Uebersetzung?
Jan
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Post by amateur on Oct 29, 2019 11:00:55 GMT
I thought you were busy working on an other shipmodel Jan
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Post by amateur on Apr 29, 2019 6:10:05 GMT
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Post by amateur on Apr 14, 2017 8:25:00 GMT
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Post by amateur on Mar 9, 2017 9:36:39 GMT
The same applies to Van Ijk: he gives quite a detailed description on how to make a round mast from square stock, and how to obtain the correct diameter at various heights, but none on made masts... Jan
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