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Post by amateur on Nov 12, 2015 7:16:29 GMT
Hi Fred, Thanks for the answer. Read the one i metioned somewhere. Can't remember where, apparently not a source to be trusted. . But wheni try to visualize the setup you describe, i keep coming back to the point that I only need five (in stead of six) holes in the upper block. (One more than in the lower one). how can you rig your setup iwhen the lower has four, and the upper six holes. Or is one hole left empty? (Or do i miss so ething very obviuous?? Jan
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Post by amateur on Nov 4, 2015 12:28:09 GMT
I would have expected the lower with five and the upper four (or six/fice). As far as i know, standard practive in -at least the netherlands) was stropping the lanyard to the stay, go to the lower block, up to the upper block again, etc, and finally belay the lanyard on the stay, just above the upper block)
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Post by amateur on Sept 12, 2015 20:11:35 GMT
To illustrate what Fred said on frane parts that are very irregular, and not connected to each other, you can take a picture of Batavia, build in around the same time as Vasa as an example. This is a picture of the inside of the wreck in Australia. It is very difficult to recognize separate frames, it looks as if the whole inside of the hull is just covered in timber. Jan Attachments:
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Post by amateur on Sept 9, 2015 18:29:55 GMT
Sorry, i misunderstood your question. But still, your questionsuggests that you are comparing building styly of ZP and Wasa..alets wait for Freds answer.
And normally, i sign by name , must have slipped out in my precious post.
Jan
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Post by amateur on Sept 6, 2015 13:30:10 GMT
I'm not wuite sure whetherI understand your question. Fact is that wasa and the reconstruction of the zp are quite different. vasa is much earlier, tha ZP. Also, Wasa was build shell first, while ZP is build frames first, using a system in which a number of frames was erected first, and next these ar complemented, usi g battens to check for the size and form of the frames.
Btw, from your pictures I see that the building in Lelystad has actually come to a full stop since a couple of years. i was there four years ago, and the ships was looking exactly the same.....
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Post by amateur on Jun 25, 2015 15:34:24 GMT
Thanks!
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Post by amateur on Jun 21, 2015 19:35:11 GMT
Thanks! The reason form asking: i was reading on mouldmaking, and in some internetpages it is weitten than gypsummoulds are for one-time use only, and that there is a serious risk of "exploding" due to water that is still closed in in the gypsum. Apparently, it does work for you without exploding!
Jan
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Post by amateur on Jun 21, 2015 18:39:56 GMT
Did the gypsum hold its form enough to do all the guns, or did you make several moulds?
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Post by amateur on Jun 20, 2015 10:52:42 GMT
Wonderfull guns, much better than the kit-stuf! What did you use to make your moulds?
Jan
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Post by amateur on Apr 11, 2015 17:19:29 GMT
as far as i know, footropes did not exist on dutch ships until well into the 1700-dreds. Any footropes on replica's of that time , such as batavia, are based on modern health and safety regulations, not on historical accuracy
The main tackle shown on all thses models was rigged only when there was something to tackle. When sailing, that tackle was removed. I guess that that practice did also exist in Sweden. You need such a heavy tackle to get your guns onto the lower gundeck. When everything is on board, the tackle can be removed.
Jan
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Post by amateur on Mar 14, 2015 8:43:39 GMT
Scheepshistorie, volume 1.
Jan
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Post by amateur on Mar 14, 2015 8:41:44 GMT
There is a relatively smaal book of ab Hoving on the ships of willem barentz. These are relatively small ships, like the Half Moon. Not the correct type of ship, fits the period quite well. Together with cor emke he did a reconstruction of an early dutch warship of the period (geunioneerde provintien), a warship of around 1600. There is no english publication on that one, i guess. There is a dutch one, in a series of booklets, maritieme historie, i think it is called. Will check on it.
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Post by amateur on Oct 15, 2014 7:01:36 GMT
Hi Rein, Thanks for the pic. Those old models have quite a history with respect to their lookings I was wondering whether or not this pic is slightly distorted: the model looks less wide compared to its height when you comapre it to the pics of Jules. Also the port bvelow the lower 'slingerlijst' look larger. Perhaps the result of lighting conditions. Pics can sometimes be very misleading.... I had a small discussion with Jules some time ago on the lines of the famous zweidecker as shown by Winter: does he show the wrong lines, or did the model for some reason not have the typical characteristics of a Dutch ship. The old pics can shown hardly any evidence.... Jan
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Post by amateur on Oct 11, 2014 18:44:18 GMT
Hi Rein,
You could be right: this layout is more in accordance with 'normal practice' Could you show the old picture of the gM you are referring to?
Jan
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Post by amateur on Oct 8, 2014 10:36:56 GMT
A second question: how large is the recoil of these guns?
Jan
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